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President Josiah Bartlet : Good. I like your show. I like how you call homosexuality an abomination.
Dr. Jenna Jacobs : I don't say homosexuality is an abomination, Mr. President. The Bible does.
President Josiah Bartlet : Yes it does. Leviticus.
Dr. Jenna Jacobs : 18:22.
President Josiah Bartlet : Chapter and verse. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I have you here. I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleared the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another? My Chief of Staff Leo McGarry insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police? Here's one that's really important because we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother John for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? Think about those questions, would you? One last thing: while you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tight-Ass Club, in this building, when the President stands, nobody sits.


Wordy McFucking Word.

Date: 2004-09-19 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
*happy sigh* That's my favorite WW dialogue, ever. :)

Date: 2004-09-19 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyincharge.livejournal.com
Oh, I know right? SCREW the bible and it's affect on society - I mean, shit, there's something about 'thou shalt not murder' or something like that, but fack! Who CARES?! LETS ALL GET PREGNANT AND KILL OUR BABIES! WOOOOO! :D

Date: 2004-09-19 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyincharge.livejournal.com
And no, that has nothing to do with my viewpoint on homosexuality, as you can tell by my icon, I too think it's an abomination. Just bringing up an interesting point O.o

Date: 2004-09-19 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurelin-kit.livejournal.com
Becky. Chill. The Bible isn't the only thing that keeps people from killing each other. There are other religions and athiest does not mean amoral.

Date: 2004-09-19 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurelin-kit.livejournal.com
I think you also missed the entire point of the quote. Besides, have a little courtesy. If you want, I'll put a lj-cut on my political or theological mentions, which are few and far between because I know how strongly you react to them. I censor myself because of you, which makes me sick to my stomach. When you post your rants to your journal, I don't go over there and refute every point with sticky caps lock and insult you for having your opinions. This is the only thing that majorly pisses me off about you. Please respect my opinions.

Date: 2004-09-19 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyincharge.livejournal.com
Dude - it's a thought. A t-h-o-u-g-h-t, I could've been far more overbearing and imperialistic in that comment, but nowdays I don't really care enough to. It was put out there as a thought: how society tends to pick and choose. And don't censor yourself from me, I dont censor myself from you because what you say isnt going to affect, you know, global warming or anything, they're just conflicting opinions, good lord.

Date: 2004-09-19 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinesister.livejournal.com
Hey, lay off. I thought Christians were supposed to be kind, compassionate and understanding folk. Not people who yell at their friends when they don't agree with them.

Then again, the Bible teaches the Golden Rule, then also teaches God killing all the people who aren't doing what he told them to, so I guess I can see where you might get confused.

It was put out there as a thought: how society tends to pick and choose.

Look in a mirror.

Using religion to backup a social argument is spineless and indicates a "Well..just...because!" attitude. I'm sick of people going to church every Sunday and saying what good people they are, then going and standing outside abortion clinics and psychologically abusing women whose business is their own. They have no right to do that. It's criminal, and inhuman.

Thou shalt not murder? Wow, that really seems to be working. The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition...yep. Nice one.

Oh, and I'm sure making a friend cry is really Christian too. [livejournal.com profile] laurelin_kit, I got your back. :)

Date: 2004-09-20 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyincharge.livejournal.com
You people are taking this way too far -- that comment was hardly a direct insult, in fact it wasn't even malicious in the least. I don't tend to put grinny faces on my nasty retorts. I don't know why, but I was actually really surprised when the reaction to it was negative. If making friends cry is what makes me christian or unchristian, then I'm going straight to hell, because I have babysat toddlers who are less sensitive.

And society does pick and choose, in very many creative and stupid ways, the above being just an example of it. And a freggin light hearted one at that. So simmer. The fuck. Down.

Date: 2004-09-20 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinesister.livejournal.com
I'm very aware that society does pick and choose. But so do the religions. So, y'know. Both ways, and all that.

I just know how upset it made her, and that she seems to know you pretty well. So I figured you meant it. No harm done.

Date: 2004-09-19 05:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-09-19 07:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-09-19 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindi-of-rohan.livejournal.com
And Molly is a little happier for reading that. AWESOME. ^.~

Date: 2004-09-19 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinesister.livejournal.com
One of my favourite quotes ever. :) Totally righteous. Anyone who argues with that sound logic is blinded by religious fervour.

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